. Go to your pastor for Comfort! When will people stop saying look at what the bible says? More than 15,000 people attend services on the weekend. When churches take the high moral ground, shouldnt their failings be exposed? It is sickening to me that a man who claims to be a messenger of God, with a daughter of his own, would take advantage of a young girl in such an evil and immoral manner.. The majority of the shame, extreme restrictions, and hurtful rhetoric tends to fall on the shoulders of young women. I am quite happy to be numbered among those Evangelicals believe are headed hell. I dont want to confirm isnt the minds of those in the congregation that my goal is to persecute the Church at large. If so, then I commend your sense of layered humor, ANONYMOUS in caps. I was married to a Pastors Daughter for nearly seven years. 2nd. If you have someone breaking into your home who do you call? Jack Schaap preaching in 2010. Jack's guilty plea apparently wasn't enough to lose the favor of his devoted followers. As it is, from what Ive read by, and about, Bruce, it seems that it is the best decision he ever made (after marrying Polly). Jack shapps victim was underage, and he was way older and in a major spiritual position of influence as her pastor, and he took advantage of her. Jack's relationship status is married. The court filing, which is to be considered with his sentencing, included 140 letters of support from family and church members. Let me be clear, I have no problem with Cindy Schaap divorcing her husband. As I mentioned in the first point, I don't wish to give others the opportunity to say that this is a full-fledged attack on the Christian religion in it's entirety. For the sake of the cause at large, I need to take precautions to be - for lack of a better term - above reproach. Thats why it does not say, except it be for adultery. A prime example would be the case of Joseph and Mary. https://brucegerencser.net/2022/02/ifb-man-admits-that-i-am-a-better-man-morally-than-he-is-but-tells-me-im-going-to-hell-anyway/. If he's convinced a parole board that he's reformed enough to be out of prison after committing the felonious acts he has, then he's in line for an academy award. I hope its not intentionally done, just irrationally put together. Jack Schaap, former pastor at the First Baptist Church of Hammond, was sentenced in 2013 to 12 years in prison for his sexual relationship with a 17-year-old parish girl. I do, however, worship my wife. So what if they are bitter. Schaap is imprisoned in Ashland, Kentucky, where he and more than 300 others contracted COVID-19 this fall, according to his letter, making him no longer afraid he would pass it onto his parents.. Only one party is shown as a resident of NC; the other is shown to be a resident of Boyd County, KY. No secrets here, no skeletons in the closet, no bodies buried underneath the communion table. He fooled the people at FBCH/HAC.He became their pastor.UGH! Jack Hyles. Bruce was up to his neck in this for decades, pastoring numerous churches. What nobody is pointing out is the Cindy Schaap was gone ALL the time. Scripture: Genesis 39:7-21 What MUST we do when someone makes unwanted sexual advances? The nonsense of celestial marriage they postulated, giving them a get out of jail free card from their marital responsibilities is a desperate mental / spiritual gymnastic that comes from someone delusional and probably not in a fulfilling marriage relationship. Protester at Paris Hilton's peaceful march at Provo Canyon School holds a sign that reads, "The Kids You Abuse Today Will Be the Ones Who Take You Down Tomorrow.:". But not believing it can have a significant impact on our lives. Put 100 IFB preachers in a room and youll end up with numerous opinions about marriage, separation, and divorce, with each person believing that their interpretation of the Bible is clear. Bro. What they really mean is look at what I want the bible to appear to be suggesting. And ask your God to forgive you. Except it be for fornication applies only to breaking a legal engagement, not ending a marriage. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2Peter 1:20 KJ. The staggering amount of opinions swirling around the internet right now in the wake of the Southern Baptist Convention Annual Meeting and, especially the now-deleted Matthew West song, Modest is Hottest are exhausting. Got thrown in prison for 22yrs. It is notable that the founder and president of Providence Baptist College, has a history of inflammatory political rhetoric. Is this extreme sex drive justification for Schaaps criminal behavior? Defendant, All rights reserved Eric Skwarczynski 2020, Paul Kingsbury's Texts to the Friend of an Abuse Victim, WATCH: Capitol Rioter Identified as IFB Church Bus Director, Update Regarding North Valley Baptist Church Protest, Fan Mail for a Predatory Pastor | Letters Supporting Jack Schaap, David Hyles' Newest Scandal: A Secret Year-Long Affair, "Treatment Shouldn't Leave Survivors" | Reflecting on Paris Hilton's Peaceful Protest in Provo, Utah, Rachel Peach (Pt. They pleaded for lenient sentencing. 3.21 avg rating 19 ratings published 1994. ! Most of us have heard the you are bitter commentary/judgment many many times. Jesus is still on the throne. But there was a point in time when I realized I was lost and in sin. I hope you will understand and correct the inaccuracies contained in what I have read here today. Please stop lying about IFB churches. Over his career, he has received 6 Grammy Awards. Jack Schaap was born on 10/01/1957 and is 65 years old. Now, that still doesnt make me better than you or possibly anyone else for that matter, but it does make me justified in His sight, and that is what matters. Divorce is not forbidden in IFB churches. In one transcript, a text from Schaap reads: Yesterday was off-the-charts! :))). Isnt the fruit of the Spirit love, joy and peace etc.? Thank you, Reverend, for pointing out the truth. Yes, it is a very hard truth, as the disciples noted. #3. On the surface, it's easy to miss why purity culture and the Christian conversation is, in fact, so toxic. You will feel the crushing great weight of humanity as she walks over you now and forever, as the minions of miracles crush your loved ones with Humanitys Judgement, the plagues of comeuppance, the horrors of your ways! Was it how she dressed, In places in the Middle East women and girls are raped all the time, and they have to wear burquas. Wow. You dare willfully sin and advocating against the faith of little ones? Glen, Ill not respond at length but I will say this. Your love of condemning others is more proof of him though, I guess, because simple humans dont get such a kick from pontification in Hate! (Schaaps wife, Cindy, divorced him in 2014.) I think I actually get it! Taking into account various assets, Jack's net worth is greater than $250,000 - $499,999; and makes between $100 - 149,999 a year. 140 letters written by family, staff, and parishioners were submitted as exhibits to be reviewed by the judge as he carried out sentencing. But it's like drawing an inside straight' - Joe Biden says Democrats can still hold the House as he flies to Egypt for climate summit, White House announces ANOTHER aid package to Ukraine as Putin skips the G20 and questions swirl over whether Republicans will back more funding if they take the House majority, Deacon 'found image of Schaap and teenage church member making out on pastor's phone'. Other IFB Christians and pastors think differently. Schapp's wife, Cindy, is the daughter of the late founder of the church, Rev. Yes, Jack fell and is disgustingly gross but his wife did not help the situation. In the opening chapter, Bluhm recounts the terror of spotting her sexual abuser in public the person she spent so long trying to avoid entirely as well as the racially-charged mistreatment she experienced as an adopted child from East India. ! You can also read the letters Schaap sent to his victim here. Simple. By Hemant Mehta. For months now, rumors have been flying over the marriage of Cindy Schaap and Jack Schaap. Jack Schaap commited felony under Federal Jurisdiction USA. Yet dont forget this, pray for the one who is in prison also, for Jesus tells us I also suspect that I know a hell of a lot more IFB preachers than you do. The goal of the rally - like everything I do with the Preacher Boys Podcast - is to try to shed light on abuse, give a voice to survivors, and spark helpful conversations. Schaap pleaded. His actions speak for themselves. Its a shame we dont put to death adulterous men like they did in the Old Testament, then Cindy wouldnt have to go through a divorce, she would be a widow and could remarry on her own accord. Its sad when divorce happens. And why is it that often such practices are only admitted by these authoritarian Fundamentalist churches, once these evils are exposed? Everyone gets married by Contract with the Government thats why the Government grants the divorce. Jack has many family members and associates who include Penny Schaap, Todd Schaap, Carmen Schaap, Timothy Schaap and Ryan Meyer. Jesus walked on the shores of Galilee, he healed the sick and raised the dead. Mr Bruce I have one question for you why are you so bitter ? Hmmm, something happend in your life! Who has done the cover up? Bring it on, Morris the Hateful servant! You have to be a truly despicable human being when screwing people out of their life savings in a Ponzi scheme, . The following is a transcription of Part 3 of my interview with survivor Rachel Peach. My ex father in law taught the young married class. You dont think he deserved a prison sentence for what he did? I was in prision and you visted me not. This recently released document reveals the evidence that will put him away. If you were assaulted or molested and did not report it to Gods other ministers as taught in Romans 13 your car or house is evidently more important than the well-being of your family member. 5) Schaap dishonoring the teens father and mother. BandGuy said: brianb said: or not. ! ABOVE) ARE FULL OF DUNG UNLESS &-OR UNTIL YOU ALL GET +++BORN-AGAIN+++ SPIRITUALLY ACCORDING TO THE TRUE KING JAMES HOLY BIBLE ala ST. JOHN CHAPTER THREE (3) VERSES 1-16 ! I was never asked to resign nor leave the church, my church family supported me and encouraged me throughout my difficult journey. You are a very sad and bitter old man. I suspect Ive attended and preached at a lot more IFB churches than you have. Prepare for the Devil and his angels! Phil Schaap aka Philip van Noorden Schaap was an American jazz disc jockey, archivist, producer, and historian. Nice try. LGBTG community in there church there nothing wrong about gay people at all if gay people want to join a Baptist church without being denied. Feel free to email me if you want more info, not gossip, just truth. I too belong to an IFB church, and went through a divorce myself several years ago. You miss the point. The quote above represents just one of the gut-punching passages within Prey Tell , written by Tiffany Bluhm. I know what you're thinking "Oh great, another guy offering his unsolicited takes on purity culture. The thinking goesGod hates divorce and God intends for marriage to be between one man and one woman for life. by. Pastors are not Policemen. I am sorry to hear that bro.schaap See Deuteronomy 22:23-27. Many of them feature contemporary worship styles, with live music complete with worship band, and sometimes even an orchestra pit. Did she even ask him if he still wanted to be married to her? Mega-churches are houses of worship with 2,000 or more members and weekly attendees. Daves sister, Cindy, said, I won thousands of souls before I finished my teen years (The Fundamental Man, p. 271). Jack Schaap (pronounced skop ), former pastor of First Baptist Church, Hammond, Indiana, was released from prison on May 4 after serving nine years (of a 12-year sentence) for a sexual relationship with a teenage church member ("Former pastor released," The Times of Northwest Indiana, Munster, May 14, 2022). I dont want to put those good transitions in jeopardy by giving the vibe that we are exactly how we will be inevitably presented to be. It has been shared and developed by well-intentioned Christian authors. shouldnt congregations be warned when these things happen and the church tries to cover it up? Why is no one questioning why this decree is in NC and that the parties are shown as NC residents? Bruce! If you have a car stolen who should you call? They are also aimed at targeting younger audiences, often with the prospects of contemporary music and more casual settings than traditional churches. Many people can say what they are it does not make them what they say. He pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in September to transporting a minor across state lines for sexual relations. this. I gotta shit, and hes been wasting all the toilet paper. While IFB church members do divorce from time to time, it is not a common occurrence. Could it be they divorced because it allowed them to put all their assets in her name only and protect them financially from pending litigation? Which Schaap is guilty of. Jack schaap was a total pervert long before he messed around with this underage kid, just look at his sermon about on the polished shaft, and read his books on marrige, pretty blasphemous stuff of a sexual nature. What difference does it make which state she is living in or that she has moved to a different city in another state from where her father established his corporation? In fact, Id say quite better because I know me! The pastor has received his fair share of criticism over the years due to some of his more controversial teachings. Cindy Schaap, who has spent her entire life in this church, addressed the congregation during the festive occasion. Whatever her reasons, it is her decision, end of story. Threatening me with future accountability before a fictitious God really has no effect on me. I have two other studies on this subject. Should be fired or resign fron being pastor at fbc hammond. I am an expert on the IFB church movement. When Jack Schaap found out that Kaifetz read Glover's book, it completely ended their friendship. Im so sorry for the hurt in your life that must have caused this. A coat. Pastor Jack Schaap's Indiana Megachurch is Being Sued for Perpetuating Investment Fraud. Look Juju, why are you called after an African god? Or is that why we look at other peoples garbage so we dont have to see our own? I know the motivation of those attending was also positive. Two plus two is four, whether we believe it or not. You are an intelligent man, and I can respect your view points with the hope that I can counter your arguments with intelligent, spiritual reasoning. Subscribe to one or more of our free e-mail newsletters to get instant updates on local news, events, and opportunities in Chicago. I try to be very careful not to place myself or others in situations where words can be taken out of context, misconstrued, or ideas can be misrepresented. As most of you have seen, I had planned to lead a peaceful gathering of survivors at North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, CA. Jack Schaap, former pastor at the First Baptist Church of Hammond, was sentenced in 2013 to 12 years in prison for his sexual relationship with a 17-year-old parish girl. Currently, Jack is married. Why come at them with an accusing tone and shut down conversation? I belong to an IFB church but I dont go along with them lock, stock and barrel.I read other translations.But I just want to say thank you because I believe there is a cult of Jack Hyles. If youd said glad Id have agreed. Schaap's most recent projected release date was February 2, 2023, according to a judge's order denying an early release request last year. According to your personal interpretation, divorce because of adultery is permitted. I cannot assume to know the condition of any mans heart. I taught Cindy in school. Current location of the inmate is Ashland, Kentucky. 6. Here are five of the most disgusting details: 1) Schaap kissing the victim during counseling. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, Optics matter. All men do. Just sayin! Best regards! Subscribe for free today! 2514 Plantation Center Drive Matthews, NC 28105. I guess we`ll still have to wait for the FBI to finish their investigation. Get down on your knees and repent now. You do know Im an atheist, right? Ill speak to you ANYTIME about Jesus! Only God searches the thoughts and intents of the heart. Doesnt love do no wrong to ones neighbour? He was born on 6 April 1951 in New York, New York, United States, he was 70 years at the time of his demise. Let them be bitter. It turns out that the charismatic youth leader had more than evangelism on his mind. And regarding bitterness, it is a blessed thing, ever so human and real and important and necessary. Various news articles, including Chicago Magazine and the Star-Telegram in Fort Worth, Texas, have documented the patterns of alleged abuse and sexual assault - most cases involving teenage girls. A marriage is a partnership. He sinned and he got what he deserved!!!!! Do you know a competent doctor I could chat with about that? Do you have any judo or karate, my friend? The denominations involved include Baptists, Methodists, and Nondenominational, as well as some Pentecostal churches. While he should never again hold such a position of trust, Jack has paid his debt to society and needs love. You sound like youd shut down the conversation before it even began. ( https://www.facebook.com/stoppingpastoralabuse ) TRIGGER WARNING: The following article contains descriptions as of sexual, and mental abuse toward minors, and one photographic piece of evidence of child abuse and neglect. I fear my wife far more than I do God. She never wanted to go with him she wanted to book her OWN conferences. Sincerely, I can say that the motivation behind the event was a positive one. Those are facts, and us not believing them does not make them any less true. I know that there might be disagreement with me, but I truly feel this is the best decision. A pastors wife, not included in her husbands counselling of any female should be taboo! Marriage by Contract signing is permitted divorcement. What the hell does all this word salad even mean? He also said it would be a 'cold day in hell before I get my theology from a woman', adding: 'Your soul is going to hell because of what Eve did.'. (Friday Church News Notes, August 26, 2022, www.wayoflife.org, fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143),
Long-running: Schaap, pictured preaching from the church's pulpit, had been pastor there since 2001, but was dismissed after a vote from the deacons, Place of worship: The First Baptist Church is located in Hammond, Indiana, and is partially housed in the old federal court building; its auditorium sits 7,500, Roots: Schaap, pictured left, is married to Cindy Schaap, the daughter of the late Rev Jack Hyles, right, who founded the First Baptist Church in Hammond. The legal age of consent in the state of Indiana is 16, the lowest age allowed in any state. Why not look at what the bible says. Very sorry to hear all this mess. A pastor at a mega-church says health and financial woes led to his sexual relationship with a 16-year-old church member. What exactly is extreme sex drive? 5. I can only imagine how different THAT world might be. In the late 1960s and 1970s, Jack Hyles was, as many of us described, the pope of the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist church movement. As we keep on updating our site to cater for our users, you are advised to always bookmark this url (http://www.studymaterials.com.ng) for easy access in the future. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});
. UPDATE: On May 4th, 2022 Jack Schaap was given an early release. My goal is to help good people get out of bad situations. Sitting across from you in a session, I would ask you why you are so quick to jump to the bitterness conclusion. Yet, here you are commenting.
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